(A) Initial appointment as Tracer (Pay Scale: 260/- - 430/-) in May 1983. (B) Became Jr.Draughtsman (Pay Scale: 330/- - 560/-) in 1988 after completing 5 years continuous service since Tracer post upgraded to Jr.D'man as per Bd.'s order. © Promoted (?) to Sr.D'man (Pay Scale: 1400/- - 2300/-) after passing the exam. (1:3) and again Jr.D'man post abolished as per Vth PC. (D) Promoted to Hd. D'man (J.E.-I) (Pay Scale: 5500/- - 9000/-) after passing Viva-voce (1:1) and again Sr.D'man (J.E.-II) & J.E.-I merged vide VIth PC.
Question is:- How many up-gradations one will get in such condition and what will be the Grade Pays ?
In S.Rly. they are being offered 2 up-gradations - G.P. 4600/- in 1st MACP and G.P. 4800/- in 2nd MACP considering that they did not get any promotion in 20 years' of service.
In E.Co.Rly. they are being offered 1 up-gradation - G.P. 4600/- in 2nd MACP considering that they got one promotion in their 20 years' of service.
In S.E.Rly. they are being offered 1 up-gradation - G.P. 4600/- in 3rd MACP considering that the got two promotions in their 20 years' of service.

SR version seems to be correct. The matter is to be brought to the attention of railway board for issuing uniform guidelines to all Railways and production units. IRTSA leadership may do needful.

(03-04-2010 06:26 AM)hari Wrote:  SR version seems to be correct. The matter is to be brought to the attention of railway board for issuing uniform guidelines to all Railways and production units. IRTSA leadership may do needful.

I would like to invite the attention of Sri Hari and others to the following.

In 1993, before implementation of V pay commission, I was recruited in the grade of Rs. 1600-2660/- DR Quota from Engineering Graduates, when diploma holders were being recruited in the grade Rs. 1400-2300/- and ITI certificate holders were being recruited in the grade Rs.1200-2040/- in the design/drawing cadre.

After the V pay commission recommendation, the recruitment grade of engineering graduates was upgraded to Rs. 6500-10500/- (2000-3200 pre revised) from 5500-9000/- (Rs. 1600-2660 pre revised), the diploma holders were recruited in the grade Rs.5000-8000/- (1400-2300/- pre revised) and ITI holders were recruited in the grade Rs.4000-6000/- (Rs. 1200-2040/- pre revised).

Subsequently, the grade of Rs.4000-6000/- (i.e., the entry grade for Junior Draftsman) was abolished by surrendering 50% of posts and they were placed in grade Rs.5000-8000/-.

Now, after the VI pay commission, the direct recruitment grade of engineering graduates is upgraded to grade pay of Rs.4600/- (Rs. 7450-11500/-) and the grades of 5000-8000/- and 5500-9000/- are merged with 6500-10500/- with a grade pay of Rs.4200/-.

Due to this, since I have joined joined as Head Draugthsman in Grade 5500-9000,prior to implementation of Vth Pay Commission my grade pay was also made the same as that of the diploma holders and the ITI certificate holders who were recruited as Senior Draughtsman and Assistant Draughtsman i.e., Rs.4200/-. Here my entry with higher qualification is totally ignored. In this regard it may also see that at that time the diploma holders were granted six additional increments on acquiring graduation in engineering.

After the implementation of Vth Pay Commission some of our juniors with degree in engineering qualification were given an opportunity to get promoted as Section Engineer through departmental exam and considered as directly recruited engineering graduates in the grade of 6500-10500/-. Now their entry grade has been considered as Rs.4600/- grade pay. Moreover fresh engineering graduates are also being recruited through RRB in the grade pay of Rs.4600/-. But, senior direct recruited engineering graduates, who were also recruited with the same qualification and selection mode, with so many years of experience are considered as having entered in the grade pay of Rs.4200/- for MACP purpose.

Directly recruited Engineering Graduates in similar other disciplines such as Works,P.Way.C&W,Electrical ,Signal etc has been considered as Rs.4600/- as their entry cadre irrespective of their year of appointment. Hence it is very unjust to DR Engineering Gradutes in Drg/Dgn category to consider their entry grade pay as Rs.4200/- and due to this I was denied one MACP grade compared to direct recruited Engineering Graduates in Drg Office after the implementation of Vth pay commission and my counterparts in other similar disciplines in Railways.

I think the Railway has shown total injustice to me and other similar recruited Engineering Graduates in Drg Cadre by denying initial Grade Pay as Rs.4600 and not granting increment for promotion from SE to SSE during 2007.

The no.of directly recruited Engineering Graduates in Drg. cadre is very mearge. I hope IRTSA will also join with us.

Narayanan Nampoothiri V.,
SSE/DRG,
DRM/W/TVC.

Dear Sri Naboothiriji

This is a peculiar case and i dont think that it is going to be settled unless a judicial intervention is demanded.

Hope IRTSA can take a lead and file a case because the outcome will be applicable to all similarly situated staff in Indian Railways.

with regards

Hari

The Tracer and Assistant Draftsman (ADM) categories of posts in Railways have already been abolished consequent upon implementation of 4th and 5th central pay commissions respectively. It is also to be noted here that the minimum grade pay prevalent in Drawing cadre is Rs. 4200/- after 6th pay commission.
In this regard, it needs to be clarified whether the erstwhile tracer or ADM (Now stand abolished) categories would be entitled to get Financial upgradation benefit under MACPS or not since they have already been promoted to JE (Grade pay 4200).

Arabinda Kumar Dhar.

Comments received from Er. K.V. Ramesh:

Similar issue exists in ICF also. 13 Engineering Graduates who are all appointed in Rs.5500-9000 scale in the Fifth Pay Commission scale are given the financial up-gradation calculating the entry scale as Rs.4200 only. IRTSA has already taken up this matter with the Railway Board appealing to Advisor/Staff and Additional Financial Commissioner.

Direct & Physical participation of Drawing Engineers from Zonal Railways in the activities of IRTSA will make its leadership to commit to the cause with more vigor and zeal.

K.V.Ramesh
Zonal Secretary/ICF

Thank you Sri.Hari for u r support.
Regarding Sri.Ramesh's comments it is very glad to know that IRTSA has already represented the same.The Drawing office staff of TVC Division has taken active role by associating with IRTSA activities physically and financially and will continue the same because no body can ignore the achivements to Technical Supervisors by the activities of IRTSA and AIREF.
Thank you Sri.Ramesh and hope IRTSA will continue their struggle for justice to all Technical personnel of Indian Railway.